New PiPlay version 2.0.7 Beta is available for downloading

Heliosurge 2017-09-30 19:17:34 UTC #101

Your quite welcome. Just glad you got it working; nothing worst then feeling like spent good money on paper weights.

Had an Asus 1st gen Apu (fm1) mb memory controller died on me after warranty period of course. Really sucked as Asus used to or maybe still does had a reputation of less than 1% failure rate.

Acaro 2017-09-30 20:15:46 UTC #102

Yup. I think the problem was right in an Asus software. I believe in Gpu Tweak. Just a while ago I had another problem, with Intel drivers installed with the Asus Suite 3 suite.

Heliosurge 2017-09-30 22:20:27 UTC #103

Gotta love computers lol

Acaro 2017-10-01 13:27:50 UTC #104

I noticed another thing. I'm trying to figure out if I can use Pimax with Elite Dangerous because in dark environments the Oculus has a bit of God rays. So I have come to try the Pimax again to make a comparison. I claim that I always used the version of Piplay 1.1.92. Instead, this time I installed the last Piplay relase and I put the shutter glass back on.
Unfortunately, however, ghosting and fisheye are increased a lot since 1.1.92. And the debug console has also disappeared. There is only one option to choose more brightness. But the 4 or 5 levels to choose from have disappeared.
I ask to Pimax: are you planning to find a solution to get back to the ghosting levels of 1.1.92? Will you increase options for the brightness?
The 1.1.92 unfortunately had the problem of high drifting. And Nolo is not supported. Even though I think that Nolo is right now extremely disappointing the new versions of Piplay is the only option to see if Pimax is continuing to work on integration with Nolo.
At the end, however, we are still behind the competitors level. So to enjoy the 4K HMD, keep working on the drivers, Pimax engineers.
Sometimes for me it would be nice to switch from Oculus to Pimax 4K, just to forget about God Rays. But with this level of ghosting and fisheye the Pimax is not worth it. Just for now, I hope.

Heliosurge 2017-10-01 17:28:35 UTC #105

Hey @Enopho i know uses the latest piplay with ED.

But for ghosting its a good question. @Enopho & others are waiting on @xunshu @Pimax-Support @PimaxVR gor an answer as we all knoe that 1.1.92 still has less ghosting. While the render is good the ghosting is quite bad.

Acaro 2017-10-01 18:23:30 UTC #106

Thank you for the tip. Yes the render is very good now. If we could reach the ghosting of 1.1.92 and decrease the "fisheye" effect Pimax would be perfect for Elite Dangerous.
In games with a lot of contrast on dark backgrounds the fact that it does not have "god rays" or screen doors is a point in its favor.

Enopho 2017-10-01 19:14:06 UTC #107

The fisheye for me is so minimal that it does not bother me in elite dangerous.. Yes there is a tiny bit and there is defiantly none in the 1.1.92, but I have gotten used to it. The 2.2 beta piplay has reduced it considerably.

The ghosting is quite bad, but changing my HUD colors to a vr friendly set has helped a bit, still notice it when there is a lot of brightness in my screen - ice fields etc, in fact I had to reduce the HUD brightness to level 3 in the right panel from the top level.

Check my tip in the vr content area of this forum

Eno

Enopho 2017-10-02 04:48:20 UTC #108

@bacon

Hi bacon, I believe that @Pimax-Support tagged you on an earlier post about 3 weeks ago to provide an update on ghosting algorithm to improve ghosting on 4k unit.

I have been waiting patiently for your reply but have not yet seen one.

Can you please tell us how you are getting on with reducing the ghosting now the render is as good as 1.1.92 can you match or better the ghosting on that version?

Thanks

Eno

bacon 2017-10-02 07:04:10 UTC #109

very sorry for late response, I think I must missed your last topic. I will check first and update to you later

bacon 2017-10-03 01:19:07 UTC #110

Dear Eno
about the ghosting issue, we checked internally that we are using the same algorithm,could you share us more details? at the same time we will arrange our test team try to reproduce this issue, but need after the National day holiday, maybe 10.10.

Heliosurge 2017-10-03 01:45:25 UTC #111

You need to find the balance 1.1.92 had. It is very easy to see in games like Sublevel Zero, Descent, Distance. When you switched from Steam's render to your own ghosting/after image increased drasticly.

Ghosting is seen with head movement (left & right rotation)

Enopho 2017-10-03 04:36:10 UTC #112

@bacon @Heliosurge pretty much nailed it. Any light source on the Hmd is fine when you are looking at it directly but if you turn your head there is a ghosting of that light source following the head movement. It happens when moving your head fast or slow. But is more noticeable when you move it fast. A bit like mouse trails (if they are turned on with a windows desktop)

I have tried different graphics setting andso I can compair I also have a pc on 1.1.92 but on the PiPlay rendered pc using the latest beta the ghosting is at least twice as bad as the steamvr render on the 1.1.92

The biggest benefit for me on the newer drivers is the Giro calibration and this was the only reason for me to use latest beta drivers, shame the ghosting on this new version is twice as bad as 1.1.92

Heliosurge 2017-10-03 06:12:31 UTC #113

Hopefully they can get worked out. I wpuld imagine they have a version of tge headset & software to monitor data. Just need the right ratios

VRGIMP27 2017-10-03 09:02:04 UTC #114

Couldn't they use their current renderer in their native mode, and use the 1.9.2 renderer for steam VR games? At least for the 4k?

If Steam's renderer worked better to reduce ghosting they should just use that, and augment that with their own stuff.

bacon 2017-10-06 05:12:20 UTC #115

Got it, very important informations, we will double check and feedback you before 10.10. Thanks again

Vort3k 2017-10-06 21:17:35 UTC #116

It's odd but I've noticed the ghosting coming and going depending on the day. It'll ghost really bad if my pc has been in standby but sometimes after fresh restarts it's like I'm looking at a dimmer oled display. Anyone else have a similar experience? Could be placebo effect

Enopho 2017-10-07 00:13:00 UTC #117

No it's defiantly there all the time. The fact I have 2 pcs identical except for the PiPlay versions.. It's defiantly noticable

LukeB 2017-10-08 04:26:10 UTC #118

Yeah, it's there all the time on my unit as well, although how bad seems to depend on what I'm watching.
Worse in games than watching videos.

Gee I hope Pimax are still working on improving this.

Enopho 2017-10-08 05:15:42 UTC #119

I don't really watch movies in mine as I have a large 4k TV and like to watch with wifey so I only use for games.. So I see it all the time

Pimax-Support 2017-10-09 05:27:25 UTC #120

@industria Hi, how is it going, have you resolved this issue?