Global warming and climate change alarmists harp on about “dangerously high” manmade CO2 output levels. So how much are they? The answer will shock you


#61

Trump didn’t win the election due to a “fraction of the population”… and for the record… Trump didn’t pull out of the Paris Climate deal because he’s a climate change denier… it was a shitty deal for the U.S.!!! The three top polluters in the world today is… 1. China 2. US 3. India… and while the U.S. had already begun cleaning up its pollution years before, it’s absurd that the deal would call for the U.S. to have massive carbon caps and provide BILLIONS of American tax dollars to go to other countries (including India) while China and India were excluded! Countries that have nukes, air-craft carriers, space programs, etc… should no longer be classified and receive special exemptions as “developing nations”…


#62

Yeah he did. Even 90% would still be a fraction, but yes the small fraction that believe in these conspiracies would have an impact on voting.

I didn’t say anything about the Paris Climate deal or Trump being a climate change denier. However, looking at his statements, he kind of is:


#63

So every president ever elected then was voted in by a fraction of the population… I can appreciate the twist, but common use of the word is not being applied here!

Trump administration report attributes climate change to 'human activities’


#64

Yes, that is mathematically correct. However I wasn’t referring to all the people who voted for Trump (roughly half [literally a fraction] of voters). I was referring to the number of people who believe these conspiracy theories. I don’t think half of US voters believes that rubbish. Do you? If you do, then yes I can see why you would take issue with me using fraction (even though it would still be technically correct).

Finally, the “Trump Administration” is not simply Donald Trump. You said Donald Trump wasn’t a climate change denier. I provided evidence that he is. That article you just linked? Has this sentence:
Trump has previously labeled climate change a "hoax."


#65

I really don’t think climate change made much of a impact on the Presidential election at all personally. That wasn’t exactly high up in the debates.

Trump was quoted as saying before the election that climate change was a Chinese hoax… he later said he was joking. You need to remember that Trump spent “figuratively” a fraction of what others spent on election campaigns. He wasn’t bankrolled like Hilary or past candidates. However, Trump was able to dominate the news media… how? … by saying outrageous things! Using the old adage… bad publicity is still publicity. And it worked! People would listen just to hear these crazy ideas… but then they also got to hear what he actually wanted to accomplish as President. I don’t think Trump is a Climate change denier nor do I think he believes Obama is a Nigerian. He did and said what he needed to say to keep his name on everyone’s lips and talking about him instead of other candidates and the media was more than happy to comply! Trump is not a moral man… but he is a marketing/business man.


#66

Instead of being funded by corporate interests, Trump is the corporate interest. Instead of electing the people in the rich guy’s pocket, you’ve elected the rich guy himself. That’s not an improvement. It’s the same at best.

I agree, but I think gullible people make an impact in every election.

Was he making the same joke all the other 100+ times?


#67

DONALD TRUMP LOST BIG MONEY WHILE PRESIDENT FOR SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR

Yes, it’s been an improvement and to say “It’s the same at best” - isn’t even remotely close to being accurate! I don’t think you’re EVER going to hear Trump tell Americans ‘we’re giving way billions to other nations for whatever reason because we’re exceptional’… The same you say? I have no idea where you got that idea from… but the Trump presidency is clearly something the U.S. has never experienced in my 51 year trip around the sun!

Yup… but there are plenty of gullible people for each candidate!!! “Gullible” comes in many flavors!

Don’t know what 100+ times you’re referring too… but you might have not fully comprehended what I was saying in my comment above… I.E., Trump wasn’t joking about Obama being a Nigerian… he was purposely pushing a false rumor to his benefit.


#68

Maybe he’d have lost more if he wasn’t president. He’s lost money before. I wonder how his family’s networth is doing? I note that’s not mentioned in the article.

Some comprehension skills please? I didn’t comment on his policies at all. I said him being self-funded is meaningless when he is already the corporate interest. Electing the corporate interest is no better than electing the politician who is in the corporate pocket.

Agreed, but the gullible people who believe these global warming conspiracies are more on Trump’s side than the Dems.

I linked earlier, Trump’s many statements on global warming


#69

Well, actually you did when you claimed… “It’s the same at best”.

I can’t agee with that… in fact, what the U.S. really didn’t need was another lifer politician! You keep saying "
“corporate interest”… corporations are in fact an important ingredient for a successful economy. Something Americans wanted![quote=“zayd, post:68, topic:9076”]
Agreed, but the gullible people who believe these global warming conspiracies are more on Trump’s side than the Dems.
[/quote]

True, however Dems & left wingers have their own nut cases and host of crazy conspiracies they subscribe too.
As I said… gullible comes in all flavors.

I think we beat that dead horse. If you wish to believe Trump is a climate denier then that’s your decision… I didn’t read the article myself because I stopped reading anything from VOX a long time ago.


#70

You don’t seem to understand what “it” I’m referring to.

So why does it matter that he’s self-funded? You’re the one who brought up funding not me.

However this thread was about the “Global Warming conspiracy” and the OP posted a video about “why Trump was elected”. So the nutcases I mentioned were the relevant ones.

It snowed over 4 inches this past weekend in New York
City. It is still October. So much for Global Warming.— Donald J. Trump ()
November 1, 2011

Newly released emails prove that scientists have
manipulated data on global warming. The data is unreliable.
http://t.co/DdW3Hsvn— Donald J. Trump () November 30, 2011

Global warming has been proven to be a canard repeatedly
over and over again. http://t.co/RK1UoS8e
The left needs a dose of reality.— Donald J. Trump () March 28, 2012

Waste! With a $16T debt and $1T budget deficit, is sending
$770M overseas “to fight global warming” http://t.co/op9x8BYl— Donald
J. Trump () March 30, 2012

According to the War on Terror is over http://t.co/7SRYZNQ1

but global warming is a national (cont)
http://t.co/icVj8CTJ— Donald J. Trump () May 4, 2012

In the 1920’s people were worried about global cooling–it
never happened. Now it’s global warming. Give me a break!— Donald J. Trump ()
May 4, 2012

Reckless! Why is wasting over $70 Billion on ‘climate
change activities?’ Will he ever learn? http://t.co/sYk3t3Eb— Donald J. Trump ()
May 18, 2012

Interesting – studies show that wind farms have a warming
effect on the climate— Donald J. Trump () June 29, 2012

Our brilliant gov’t phased out gas for air conditioners
due to global warming. Now it’s selling heavy on the (cont)
http://t.co/iOjor1fK— Donald J. Trump () September 10, 2012

Do you believe algore is blaming global warming for the
hurricane?— Donald J. Trump () November 1, 2012

**Let’s continue to destroy the competitiveness of **

**our factories & manufacturing so we can fight mythical
global **

warming. China is so happy!— Donald J. Trump () November
1, 2012

Global warming is based on faulty science and manipulated
data which is proven by the emails that were leaked http://t.co/5BeAhats—
Donald J. Trump () November 2, 2012

It’s extremely cold in NY & NJ—not good for flood
victims. Where is global warming?— Donald J. Trump () November 5, 2012

Great article in the NewYorkPost by Ben
Garrett–“Don’t Blame Sandy on Global Warming” http://t.co/o2VHHPOa—
Donald J. Trump () November 5, 2012

**We can’t destroy the competitiveness of our **

**factories in order to prepare for nonexistent global
warming. China is **

thrilled with us!— Donald J. Trump () November 5, 2012

The concept of global warming was created by and for the
Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.— Donald J. Trump ()
November 6, 2012

In the 1950’s our climate was far more unstable than it
has been over the last 5 years.— Donald J. Trump () November 6, 2012

It’s freezing and snowing in New York–we need global
warming!— Donald J. Trump () November 7, 2012

The World Bank is tying poverty to ‘climate change’
http://t.co/wZ9ofqxJ And we wonder why
international organizations are ineffective.— Donald J. Trump () November 19,
2012

It is snowing in Jerusalem and across Lebanon. Global warming!— Donald J. Trump () January
14, 2013

Watch Obama push major global warming legislation early in
his second term…— Donald J. Trump () January 24, 2013

The freezing cold weather across the country is
brutal. Must be all that global
warming.— Donald J. Trump () January 25, 2013

It’s snowing & freezing in NYC. What the hell ever
happened to global warming?— Donald J. Trump () March 21, 2013

Looks like the U.S. will be having the coldest March since
1996-global warming anyone???— Donald J. Trump () March 22, 2013

It’s springtime and it just started snowing in NYC. What
is going on with global warming?— Donald J. Trump () March 25, 2013

**They changed the name from “global warming” to **

**“climate change” after the term global warming just wasn’t
working (it **

was too cold)!— Donald J. Trump () March 25, 2013

UK is freezing through longest & coldest winter in over
50 years http://t.co/WJitoHw6LM Where’s the global warming? gatewaypundit—
Donald J. Trump () March 25, 2013

**Another freezing day in the Spring - what is **

going on with “global warming”? Good move changing the name to "climate

** change" - sad!— Donald J. Trump () April 3, 2013**

It’s freezing in New York—where the hell is global
warming?— Donald J. Trump () April 23, 2013

**Wrong, used to be called global warming and when **

**that name didn’t work, they deftly changed it to climate
change-because **

it’s freezing!— Donald J. Trump () April 24, 2013

**The Chinese talk of climate change and carbon **

**footprint but don’t clean up their factories-but they sell
us the **

equipment to clean up ours!— Donald J. Trump () April 24,
2013

"Jenil93_: No
melting of ice caps in the degree that global warming predicted. On the
contrary increased ice in Antarctica— Donald J. Trump () April 24, 2013

Snow and freezing weather all over mid-section of Country.
Global warming specialists better start thinking fast!— Donald J. Trump () May
1, 2013

32º in New York - it’s freezing! Where the hell is global
warming when you need it?— Donald J. Trump () May 14, 2013

"OldManConroy: It’s called “climate
change”. No, they changed it to “climate change” when
“global warming” wasn’t working anymore-too cold!— Donald J. Trump ()
May 26, 2013

It’s freezing outside, where the hell is “global
warming”??— Donald J. Trump () May 25, 2013

It’s 46º (really cold) and snowing in New York on

** Memorial Day - tell the so-called “scientists”
that we want global **

warming right now!— Donald J. Trump () May 27, 2013

"PolitiGal2012: Hey how come no #globalwarming #climatechange talk
this week?" Heat 10 years ago was far worse!— Donald J. Trump () July 18,
2013

We are being embarrassed by Russia and China on Snowden
(and much more) yet Obama is talking about global warming on Tuesday.— Donald
J. Trump () June 24, 2013

**Obama’s speech on climate change was scary. It **

will lower our standard of living and raise costs of fuel
& food for

** everyone.— Donald J. Trump () June 26, 2013**

China loved Obama’s climate change speech yesterday. They
laughed! It hastens their takeover of us as the leading world economy.— Donald
J. Trump () June 26, 2013

**For the disciples of global warming, in 150 **

**summers (years) there have been 20 heat waves as bad or
worse than **

current-this has happened b4!— Donald J. Trump () July 18,
2013

Surprise? 1970’s global cooling alarmists were pushing
same no-growth liberal agenda as today’s global warming http://t.co/U1e9OpO3Fi—
Donald J. Trump () July 31, 2013

So much for ‘global warming.’ Earth is cooling at a record
pace http://t.co/Kig0fLOWRK— Donald J. Trump () September 9, 2013

Where’s the global warming? 2013 was one of the least
extreme years in weather on record http://t.co/foGcQyOIZy— Donald J. Trump ()
October 21, 2013

Snow and ice, freezing weather, in Texas, Arizona and
Oklahoma - what the hell is going on with GLOBAL WARMING?— Donald J. Trump ()
November 23, 2013

The people that gave you global warming are the same
people that gave you ObamaCare!— Donald J. Trump () November 24, 2013

They changed the name global warming to climate change
because the concept of global warming just wasn’t working!— Donald J. Trump ()
November 24, 2013

**The least number of hurricanes in the U.S. in **

**decades. So they change global warming (too cold) to
climate change-now **

what will they call it— Donald J. Trump () December 2,
2013

Denver, Minnesota and others are bracing for some

** of the coldest weather on record. What are the global
warming geniuses **

saying about this?— Donald J. Trump () December 3, 2013

Wow, record setting cold temperatures throughout large
parts of the country. Must be global warming, I mean climate change!— Donald J.
Trump () December 4, 2013

The problem w/ the concept of “global warming”
is

** that the U.S. is spending a fortune on “fixing
it” while China & **

others do nothing!— Donald J. Trump () December 5, 2013

**Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I’m in **

**Los Angeles and it’s freezing. Global warming is a total,
and very **

expensive, hoax!— Donald J. Trump () December 6, 2013

We should be focused on magnificently clean and healthy
air and not distracted by the expensive hoax that is global warming!— Donald J.
Trump () December 6, 2013

This is one of the COLDEST WINTERS ever, freezing all over
the country for long periods of time! So much for GLOBAL WARMING.— Donald J.
Trump () December 12, 2013

**Wow, it’s snowing in Isreal and on the pyramids **

**in Egypt. Are we still wasting billions on the global
warming con? MAKE **

U.S. COMPETITIVE!— Donald J. Trump () December 15, 2013

59% of the United States, by area, is now covered

** in snow-highest % in many years. The “global
warming” name isn’t **

working anymore-SORRY!— Donald J. Trump () December 15,
2013

**They call it “climate change” now because the **

words “global warming” didn’t work anymore. Same
people fighting hard to

** keep it all going!— Donald J. Trump () December 15,
2013**

**We should be focusing on beautiful, clean air **

**& not on wasteful & very expensive GLOBAL WARMING
bullshit! **

China & others are hurting our air— Donald J. Trump ()
December 15, 2013

**Wow, just in-John Beale, the top person in **

**government on climate change (EPA), is a total fraud, and
just admitted **

it! What can they say now— Donald J. Trump () December 16,
2013

The coolest story is that John Beale, the man who

** headed up CLIMATE CHANGE for the government, is a proven
con man and **

total phoney.ARRESTED— Donald J. Trump () December 19,
2013

It is really too bad that the scientists studying

** GLOBAL WARMING in Antarctica got stuck on their
icebreaker because of **

massive ice and cold— Donald J. Trump () December 27,
2013

The rescue icebreaker, trying to free the ship of

** the GLOBAL WARMING scientists, has turned back-the ice
is massive (a **

record). IRONIC!— Donald J. Trump () December 28, 2013

**The global warming
scientists don’t want to be **

**airlifted off the ship-they are having too much fun and
that is too **

simple a solution-FAME!— Donald J. Trump () December 28,
2013

**Temperature at record lows in many parts of the **

**country. 50 degrees below zero with wind chill in large
area. Global **

warming folks iced in!— Donald J. Trump () December 29,
2013

**What the hell is going on with GLOBAL WARMING. **

**The planet is freezing, the ice is building and the G.W.
scientists are **

stuck-a total con job— Donald J. Trump () December 31,
2013

**This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has **

**got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and
our GW **

scientists are stuck in ice— Donald J. Trump () January 2,
2014

Record snowfall & freezing temps throughout the
country. Where is Global Warming when you need it?!— Donald J. Trump () January
3, 2014

"princebe:
Antarctic ice shelf melt ‘lowest EVER recorded, global warming is NOT
eroding it’ http://t.co/XZBepuyI1O via theregister"— Donald J. Trump ()
January 4, 2014

**We are experiencing the coldest weather in more **

**than two decades-most people never remember anything like
this. GLOBAL **

WARMING anyone?— Donald J. Trump () January 6, 2014

**NBC News just called it the great freeze - **

**coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending
money on the **

GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?— Donald J. Trump () January 25,
2014

"dawson_Stock: Don’t forget. “Global
warming” can also mean earth is getting colder! That way they cover both
sides of the fence!"— Donald J. Trump () January 26, 2014

Any and all weather events are used by the GLOBAL

** WARMING HOAXSTERS to justify higher taxes to save our
planet! They **

don’t believe it $$$$!— Donald J. Trump () January 26,
2014

**Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting **

**freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond.
Global warming **

is an expensive hoax!— Donald J. Trump () January 29,
2014

**With one of the worst and most prolonged cold **

**spells in history, with Atlanta, Texas and parts of
Florida freezing- **

Global Warming anyone?— Donald J. Trump () January 30,
2014

**Massive record setting
snowstorm and freezing **

temperatures in U.S. Smart that GLOBAL WARMING hoaxsters
changed name to

** CLIMATE CHANGE! $$$$— Donald J. Trump () February 5,
2014**

**Don’t let the GLOBAL WARMING wiseguys get away **

with changing the name to CLIMATE CHANGE because the FACTS
do not let GW

** tag to work anymore!— Donald J. Trump () February 17,
2014**

Do you believe this one - Secretary of State John

** Kerry just stated that the most dangerous weapon of all
today is **

climate change. Laughable— Donald J. Trump () February 17,
2014

It’s not climate change,it’s global warming.Don’t

** let the dollar sucking wiseguys change names midstream
because the **

first name didn’t work— Donald J. Trump () February 18,
2014

"Michael_KSC: thedropkicks
Whether Global Warming or Climate change. The fact is We didn’t cause it. We
cannot change it.— Donald J. Trump () February 18, 2014

"Nospin_43: tan123
climate change allows them to stay on the gravy train whatever happens."—
Donald J. Trump () February 19, 2014

Congrats to Charles krauthammer for his statements on
climate change, formerly known as global warming!— Donald J. Trump () February
26, 2014

**Baltimore just set a record for the coldest day **

**in March in a long recorded history - 4 degrees. Other
places likewise. **

Global warming con!— Donald J. Trump () March 4, 2014

"shaneandstamp: your a respected businessman. Why do you deny
peoples knowledge about climate change. You mean GLOBAL W— Donald J. Trump ()
April 1, 2014

In New York, March was the coldest month in recorded
history - we could use some GLOBAL WARMING!— Donald J. Trump () April 1, 2014

**Russia is on the move in the Ukraine, Iran is **

**nuking up & Libya is run by Al Qaeda, yet Obama is
busy issuing **

‘climate change” warnings.— Donald J. Trump () May 7,
2014

**The global warming we should be worried about is **

**the global warming caused by NUCLEAR WEAPONS in the hands
of crazy or **

incompetent leaders!— Donald J. Trump () May 8, 2014

**The man made “climate change” that our
“great” **

president should be focused on is of the NUCLEAR variety
brought upon us

** because of weakness!— Donald J. Trump () June 8, 2014**

**I wonder if when Secy. Kerry goes to Iraq and **

**Afghanistan he pushes hard for them to look at GLOBAL
WARMING and study **

the carbon footprint?— Donald J. Trump () June 23, 2014

Record cold temperatures in July - 20 to 30 degrees colder
than normal. What the hell happened to GLOBAL WARMING?— Donald J. Trump () July
14, 2014

They only changed the term to CLIMATE CHANGE when the
words GLOBAL WARMING didn’t work anymore. Come on people, get smart!— Donald J.
Trump () July 14, 2014

**The only global warming that people should be **

**concerned with is the global warming caused by nuclear
weapons because **

of our weak U.S. leader— Donald J. Trump () July 15,
2014

"devhop: they
renamed it Climate Change so it could be devastating either way the temperature
goes."— Donald J. Trump () July 15, 2014

**Tremendous cold wave hits large part of U.S. **

Lucky they changed the name from global warming to climate
change - G.W.

** just doesn’t work!— Donald J. Trump () July 16, 2014**

**It’s late in July and it is really cold outside **

**in New York. Where the hell is GLOBAL WARMING??? We need
some fast! **

It’s now CLIMATE CHANGE— Donald J. Trump () July 29,
2014

Great article on so-called climate change, formerly known
as global warming. http://t.co/fEYAhQ7lGB— Donald J. Trump () September 17,
2014

Windmills are the greatest threat in the US to both bald and
golden eagles. Media claims fictional ‘global warming’ is worse.— Donald J.
Trump () September 9, 2014

As ISIS and Ebola spread like wildfire, the Obama

** administration just submitted a paper on how to stop
climate change **

(aka global warming).— Donald J. Trump () October 14,
2014

**Just out - the POLAR ICE CAPS are at an all time **

**high, the POLAR BEAR population has never been stronger.
Where the hell **

is global warming?— Donald J. Trump () October 29, 2014

**The entire country is
FREEZING - we desperately **

need a heavy dose of global warming, and fast! Ice caps
size reaches all

** time high.— Donald J. Trump () November 17, 2014**

**Obama’s China ‘climate’ deal binds America with **

language of ‘will’ curb emissions now while China only
‘intends’ to curb

** in 2030. Bad deal!— Donald J. Trump () November 17,
2014**

**Just like Jonathan Gruber viciously lied & **

**called Americans “stupid” on ObamaCare, many consultants
are doing the **

same on Global Warming.— Donald J. Trump () November 18,
2014

**There are many Jonathan Gruber types selling the **

**global warming “stuff” - and they really do
believe the American public **

is stupid.— Donald J. Trump () November 19, 2014

**For those that constantly say that “global **

**warming” is now “climate change”—they changed the name.
The name global **

warming wasn’t working— Donald J. Trump () November 19,
2014

It’s record cold all over the country and world - where
the hell is global warming, we need some fast!— Donald J. Trump () January 8,
2015

"DuttyVal202: “: It’s record cold all over the
country and world - where the hell is global warming, we need some fast!”—
Donald J. Trump () January 9, 2015

Where the hell is global warming when you need it?— Donald
J. Trump () January 26, 2015

"blazaruk: “RT Where the hell is global warming
when you need it?” I dearly hope you are able to take up the flag of the
GOP in 2016"— Donald J. Trump () January 27, 2015

Record low temperatures and massive amounts of snow. Where
the hell is GLOBAL WARMING?— Donald J. Trump () February 15, 2015

Wow, 25 degrees below zero, record cold and snow spell.
Global warming anyone?— Donald J. Trump () February 15, 2015

Among the lowest temperatures EVER in much of the

** United States. Ice caps at record size. Changed name from
GLOBAL **

WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE— Donald J. Trump () February 18,
2015

**Record setting cold and snow, ice caps massive! **

The only global warming we should fear is that caused by
nuclear weapons

** - incompetent pols.— Donald J. Trump () February 19,
2015**

"NewsTodayUSA: Two Canadian Coast Guard ships sent to
rescue U.S. freighter stuck in ice. #globalwarming? algore http://t.co/UUJVHkK1qr"— Donald J. Trump
() February 22, 2015

President Obama was terrible on 60Minutes tonight. He said
CLIMATE CHANGE is the most important thing, not all of the current disasters!—
Donald J. Trump () October 12, 2015

**It’s really cold outside, they are calling it a **

major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a
big fat dose of

** global warming!— Donald J. Trump () October 19, 2015**


#71

You wrote… “Instead of electing the people in the rich guy’s pocket, you’ve elected the rich guy himself. That’s not an improvement. It’s the same at best.” - Yes, I completely understand what you’re saying and what “IT” refers too… and I still completely disagree with you. “IT” has NOT not been the SAME!!!

Huh, you quoted something else I said that made no mention of self-funding… anyway, do you not understand why I mentioned it? I thought i was clear. Do I really need to explain it again? Re-read my post where I mention this funding ONE TIME and why I mentioned it… if you still don’t understand why I mentioned it, then I’ll try to explain it again in simpler terms!

OK! Not sure then how then your comments about “Corporate interest” and such is related but… whatever…

Regarding the remaining part of your comment… TL:DR … as I said, you’re free to believe EVERYTHING Trump and VOX says… I won’t try to persuade you…since you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the part of my post that included the “self-funding” aspect which I clearly linked to Trump’s climate change comments… you’ve made up your mind!


#72

Which is what my “Corporate interests” coments related to.

So is Trump:

A) A climate change denier
B) A liar?
C) All of the above?
D) None of the above?


#73

Yes I understand, but "this thread was about the “Global Warming conspiracy” Does that sound familiar?

Well, if you actually read what I wrote above (the funding part) and comprehended it… it would be clear to you which of those choices I would pick!!!


#74

It looks like you go for B, while OP would go for A.

Personally I suspect C. He’s been denying it long before the campaign, but I accept the possibility that he has simply been denying it because it’s not in his interests.

Anyway, I think we’ve argued for long enough when:
A) Neither of us believe this nonsense about a global warming conspiracy.
B) The two of us are never going to agree on Trump and his presidency.


#76

:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy: brilliant!


#77

Now I think we’re much closer to being on the same page…

Absolutely…

Article: Trump admits ‘some connectivity’ between climate change and human activity

From the article put these two things together…

“President-elect Donald Trump conceded Tuesday there is “some connectivity” between human activity and climate change and wavered on whether he would pull the United States out of international accords aimed at combating the phenomenon”

AND

The President-elect on the campaign trail repeatedly vowed to slash environmental protection regulations burdening US businesses and said that beyond the consequences to the planet, he is particularly mindful of the economic impact of combating climate change. He said he is considering “how much it will cost our companiesand the effect on American competitiveness in the global market, according to a tweet from Grynbaum.


#78

It’s hard to say. It’s not the only topic where he’s been on one side of the issue in the past, and is now on the other side.

It’s sometimes hard to tell what his actual views are because it’s not clear when he’s just saying what he thinks the people he wants to please want to hear, or when he’s changed his mind.


#79

Yup… there’s no denying that. A democrat now republican, Pro-choice now Pro-life, Anti-Gun now Pro-2nd Amendment, etc, etc, etc…

He’s a populist and much of the time his own comments makes him out to be … a buffoon.


#80

Careful about anything that comes out from “Clinton News Network”… :grin:


#81

Careful about using DailyMail as a source of information. They are neither scientists nor unbiased.

The rebound from 2012’s record low

Look at the trend instead:

(from https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/)

Variation from year to year is big enough that one can paint any picture they want to pick by selecting two years that prove their points.

In any case, extent can be misleading, volume and mass are better indications. Here is NASA’s data on the subject:

Rate of change in Greenland: -286 billion tons per year since 2002

Regarding the medieval warm period, it is often referred to as an anomaly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period). You can’t use it as a normal frame of reference.

The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) also known as the Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region that may have been related to other warming events in other regions during that time, including China[1] and other areas,[2][3] lasting from c. 950 to c. 1250.[4] Other regions were colder, such as the tropical Pacific.
Averaged global mean temperatures have been calculated to be similar to
early-mid 20th century warming. Possible causes of the Medieval Warm
Period include increased solar activity, decreased volcanic activity,
and changes to ocean circulation.

See also https://www.skepticalscience.com/10000-years-warmer.htm It addresses the validity of the data, but I also found the closing words important:

Whether temperatures have been warmer or colder in the past is
largely irrelevant to the impacts of the ongoing warming. If you don’t
care about humans and the other species here, global warming may not be
all that important; nature has caused warmer and colder times in the
past, and life survived. But, those warmer and colder times did not come
when there were almost seven billion people living as we do