Pimax 8K Progress [Updated: Feb 6, 2018]


#1

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Hi Futurists,

In the previous update, we have shared the iterations of Pimax 8K to give you the context of what has changed in each prototype and why we made the changes. The team was focusing on v5 fine tuning on Jan, and now we would like to share the progress with you:

“Blurring effect of objects.” “Blurred objects outside the middle 100 - 120 degrees field of view.”
We used new lenses on v5, and magnification changed (please check image as below). The team is optimizing the lenses.

“Tracking issues” “Jittering and latency issues”, “delay” “Choppiness, rotational latency, jumpiness”
We added more LEDs in the backlight panel to improve brightness. The LED current supply to the panel increased as well. As a result, the current supply in other parts decreases and makes the tracking unstable. The tracking is improved already, and we will keep testing with the new mainboards.

Latency - 1. The ATW algorithm was for versions with two HDMI interfaces. As we used one DP and new screens in v5, there was a mismatch. The algorithm is largely improved already.
2. V5 is the first prototype after the tooling for mass production. It was the very first time to assemble the new prototype, the position of the lights was not perfect, which impacted tracking in certain angles. We are improving the assembling accuracy and the issue will be resolved very soon.

Choppiness - We are analyzing the root cause and narrowing down to some possible reasons. Besides assembly accuracy, the material that covers the sensors would impact tracking, we are testing with different materials. While refining the prototype, the team is conducting comparative trials with the vive.

“Reflections at the edges of lenses” “weird reflections at edges of lenses” “slivers of moving imagery at the periphery.”

One of the reasons is the magnification change on v5. Also, v5 is the first mass production prototype, the lenses and the mechanical design of the lenses are both new tooling version. The inner face is smooth in v5, which result in reflections. We will add texture on the surface in the final version to avoid reflection.

“mura”
It would be an individual case, we didn’t find mura during the tests, but we are still watching.

“eyes were straining a bit to keep the images fused”

IPD and the center of the image were not well aligned. the lens shift was 8.97, image shift was 11.06, the graphic below shows the misalignment.

In the next iteration, the lens shift and image shift will be the same and aligned.

Besides, automatic stepping was 1.6mm. We have changed the stepping to 0.2mm so the IPD adjustment will be smoother.

“Comfort”

The team is testing different straps and optimizing the design of the headstrap and headset ergonomics.

“Build quality”
V5 is the first prototype after the tooling for mass production, the build quality will be improved in mass production.

Thanks a lot for your passion and support! We are looking forward to updating you again in March.

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[January update]

Following a very busy start to 2018 at CES, we’ve been taking on board all the feedback from both press, and you, the Pimax community.

As a result, we thought it best to update you on where we are in the build and iteration process, and to give you a bigger picture of the timeline and progress thus far, and what it means for you.

First off, we figured a timeline would help provide you with some context:

PIMAX 8K TIMELINE-: V1 - V5 HARDWARE ITERATIONS

Jan 2017: Prototype V1 - The 1st prototype was built - more of a display unit, and to give our audience an idea of what the HMD would look like

Aug 2017: Prototype V2 - Our first Roadshow prototype was developed, giving users the first chance to try Pimax 8K for themselves - from this we set goals for V3:

Enable IPD
Change HDMI to DP
Improve build quality

Sept 2017: Kickstarter went live!

Oct 2017: Prototype V3

What we improved for V3:

Hardware IPD enabled
Changed HDMI to DP1.4
Changed USB to Adapter
Build quality:

  • Improved sealing for dustproof
  • Improved tablet compressing to prevent screen damage

Goals for V4:

Enable software IPD
Extendable interfaces
Quality

  • Damage resistance
  • Dustproof
    Comfort
  • Reduce weight
  • Improve ergonomics

Dec 2017: Prototype V4

What we improved for V4:

IPD

  • Optimized the IPD adjustment design and mold
  • Changed the cloth around the lenses for better elasticity and dustproof
    The extendable interfaces enabled
    Quality
  • Reliability / Crash Test
  • Dustproof
    Comfort
  • Better heat dissipation and strength with light-weighted alloy
  • Optimized structure material to reduce weight
  • Optimized ergonomics e.g. Increase distance of exit pupil to prevent eyelash from touching the lenses

Goals for V5:

Improve brightness
Optimize visual quality with new lenses
Prepare for mass production

Jan 2018: Prototype V5 - The CES build!

What we improved for V5:

Added LEDs to improve brightness
Lenses changed
Mass production

  • Production testing software and tools ready
  • New material to cover sensor
  • Mockup lens - lens tooling v1.0
  • Headset tooling

Goals for M1:

Fine-tuning
Debugging
Change the medium number of IPD
Optimize ergonomics

It’s also worth noting, that for each iteration, the circuit boards were tested and optimized too!

So this brings you up to date with where we’ve been over the last year, and you can see, at each stage we’ve been painstakingly tweaking features and making improvements, to ensure that the end result of what we deliver to you is what you’d expect.

So, what’s next? Well, after spring festival (when our suppliers usually take vacations for half a month), we will have the M1 version done - this is our close-to-mass production unit, so we’re getting very close to delivery!

Starting from mid-March, we plan to showcase M1 in roadshows and bring the new build to you, our backers, to put your hands on the first mass production version. While this is happening, we also have a small, closed group from the community testing M1. From there, we’ve been working hard with our manufacturing and development teams to give you a realistic timeline for the completion of the final version, so we can give you a date for shipment of the finished product.

Currently, taking into account the fixes for the final version, we are now looking at a delivery window of Q2. So we’re certainly getting there! We will continue to offer you more frequent updates as we pass those milestones and tweak towards our final version. We are so grateful for the feedback you’ve given us, and for the patience, you’ve shown in allowing us the time to really hone Pimax 8K to be the best it can be.

We do understand that our initial estimate for delivery was perhaps generous, and for this we sincerely apologize. It’s been very encouraging to hear from press and community that have tested the latest version, and that they feel we’re almost there, but we of course know we’ve got a lot of work to put in over the coming weeks. We don’t want to let you down on final build quality, so we’re back at the grindstone, and as M1 becomes available, we’ll have an even clearer idea of our trajectory, which we will of course share with you ASAP.

Thanks again, and look forward to updating you very soon!

bests,

The Pimax Team


Why M1 and not V6? Is it that close to Mass production?
5K/8K Official Updates
Why M1 and not V6?
M1 Prototype Progress [March 30th, 2018 Update]
M1 Prototype Progress [March 30th, 2018 Update]
(Official) Important Notice
#2

Awesome update! Very detailed thank you.

I have added a link to your post in the Pinned Updates.


#3

I saw the Revive video of the other day and already felt PIMAX 8K improved to the level that can be shipped. I am grateful to the PIMAX team!
After all, what time is shipment?


#4

The shipment of final units will happen on Q2.


#5

Hey @xunshu, thanks for the update. I was wondering if we are still going to get an update that addresses each of the concerns brought up from the CES 2018 demo and what your plans are to fix them?

For instance, you all have already said the tracking concerns were due to increased LEDs which led to power delivery difficulties–hence the tracking issues.

But I, and I think many community members as well, would love to see a list of concerns that were raised from the CES reviews such as the mirror reflection in lenses, “convergence” issues, etc. and what your plans to address these issues are.

Thanks!


#6

Hi Xunshu thanks for the detailed update

Can you please confirm. Will the Small group of testers be recieving a sample of the M1 headset Mid March when you start your roadshow?

It really is this group of testers who will be able to prove the product and give the best feedback for your team

Thanks for your hard work!


#7

Thanks for raising this up! The team is fine-tuning v5, we will keep tracking the progress and update in the forum.


#8

Thanks, we will start shipping the testing units on March.


#9

Do we still make a decision about first lot and second lot of different hardware for refresh rate?

Or you decide to ship at the same time right now?

Still have new survey about this?


#10

When shipping Q2, will sensors and controllers be included?


#11

Thanks Xunshu, sorry to bring this up but is the 90hz still a goal for M1 in addition of the one listed in the post?


#12

How do we get on the list to be one of the M1 testers?


#13

Thanks for the detailed update, Xunshu Li!


#14

Thank you very much for the update @xunshu. Sounds like manufacturing and first batch is not far away anymore :grinning:
Great news!


#15

I kind of wonder if anyone actually believed that the target date was actually going to be met. I was skeptical of the forecast dates from the beginning which was why I was a lot of general whimsical requests which would just have added more delays and problems.

As a kickstarter veteran I’ve learned to just tune out to the news/expectations/complaints and only look out for key announcements…Tends to save a lot of finger twiddling and hair pulling.

Great summary and kind of what I was expecting… I still am hoping that it arrives to me in Australia before the import tax laws change at the beginning of July :frowning: but I’m a realist…


#16

Is shipment to Backer soon?


#17

Looks like it’s some time in Q2 at the earliest


#18

As mentioned in the post above it is now scheduled for Q2.


#19

@xunshu @matthew.xu

Can you please confirm the following:

After the March M1 prototype testing. Will the final production unit ship with the updated 90hz hardware?

Will the final production unit ship with V2 base stations?

Will the final production unit ship with controllers?

You did suggest controllers and base stations would be ready by Q2. Please confirm

Thankyou


#20

Thanks for the update and for not rushing the product out. Can’t wait to see how M1 turns out.