Samsung Odyssey+ Discussion. Review - Through the lens comparison

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#1

Dear Pimax community,

These days lots of people ask me when the final MRTV Samsung Odyssey+ review will be out. I understand, people would like to know if they should take advantage of the $299 Black Friday deal or not. As you all know by now, MRTV Reviews are really thorough and I cannot rush this review just in order to match the Black Friday deal. But I decided to publish some of my results and comparison pictures early in this article, to allow you not to miss this deal. The reason is: The Odyssey+ at $299 is a no-brainer and after you have finished reading, you should secure one for yourself, and probably one more for a person you love. :slight_smile:

The Odyssey+ has the best display that is on the market right now. Period.

Most of you wonder if Samsung’s new display technology that is supposed to eliminate the Screendoor Effect (SDE) really works. I was truly surprised when I first put the headset on, because it works. The Screendoor Effect is a thing of the past and it is just a joy to experience VR like this. It is a huge leap if you come from the original Vive or the Rift, and it is still a big difference if you come from the Vive Pro or the Original Samsung Odyssey. But have a look yourself:

Comparison pictures in the original article here: https://mrtv.co/2018/11/mrtv-preliminary-samsung-odyssey-review-best-current-gen-headset-on-the-market/

The Odyssey+ display makes even the Pimax 5K Plus and Pimax 8K display look bad in comparison. But again, see for yourself. All pictures have been taken through the lens.


It is my pleasure to also debunk the myth that the Odyssey+ would look blurry. I was very surprised when I read some people spreading this kind of misinformation. I believe this originates from the very first through the lens picture that emerged on the web that indeed looked blurry. Having used the Odyssey+ for many hours now, I can just tell you again that this is the best picture you can get in VR right now. It is not blurry at all, it just lacks the Screendoor Effect that allows you to clearly identify individual pixels, like you can for example when you look at the Pimax 5K Plus picture. You could say, that being able to see each pixel will make things look very clear and defined. Some people might prefer this kind of look. But this does not make the Odyssey screen blurry. Perhaps just “soft”, as compared to the hard edges that you can see in the 5K Plus.

Another reason for people not being able to see picture as clear as it can be is the small sweetspot. I suppose that the small sweetspot is the one disadvantage that comes with the new Anti-SDE technology. When you put on the Odyssey+, you first have to position the device just exactly into the sweetspot for things to look amazing. It is no problem to find it, but it is not exactly user friendly to have to wiggle for a few seconds first. That is absolutely no comparison to the Pimax headsets, where you simply put it on and hit the sweetspot without even having to try.

Another surprising win for the Samsung Odyssey+: the FOV is even larger than before! When comparing directly with the predecessor, it is very obvious but also when comparing against the other current gen headsets the Odyssey+ has a slight advantage.

Comfort has improved, but at a cost

In direct comparison with the Original Odyssey, the comfort and fit has improved. There is much more room for the nose in the new design and the new material that the paddings are made of is fantastic. For the original Odyssey, even it was my go-to headset before the Pimax 5K Plus, after longer playing periods I did not quite enjoy the cold feeling of the PU leather. The new headset is also lighter than the original Odyssey, all improvements that help to increase the comfort of the device. And wearing glasses in the headset now even works better than it did before thanks to a bigger eye box.

Unfortunately the updated design of the headset also introduces a problem that we did not have with the original Odyssey: light leakage. There is indeed light coming in from the sides of the headset. It is not a deal breaker by far and there are ways to get around it, but without a doubt it is a flaw that has to be mentioned.

Tracking is much much better than its reputation

The Samsung Odyssey+ also improves on the often criticized Windows Mixed Reality controller tracking. It does so by eliminating a major flaw of the original Windows MR architecture: not including a bluetooth module into the headsets by default. Before, users had to rely on their own bluetooth dongles, which not in all cases where compatible or well placed. The Odyssey+ has the bluetooth module built into the headset and the controllers are pre-paired. There are not connection issues whatsoever and tracking works fantastic. It is still not as good as the Valve lighthouse tracking, but it is really really good. I will demonstrate that in the full MRTV Review of the device.

Get it now

Despite the flaws, the Samsung Odyssey+ is the best of the current generation VR headsets. It is a huge upgrade from Rift and Vive and still a very noticeable upgrade from Vive Pro and the Original Samsung Odyssey. Even at its original $499 price I would wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone, but at $299 it is a must-have and a no-brainer. Get it for $299 while you still can!

Bye, Sebastian


#2

It’s still just 110FOV, right?


#3

Interesting by you pics looks like color is better optimised on the Odyssy+ as in the first pic you can see red shades better around the teeth. Looks nicer than Vive Pro on color details compared to the other headset shots.

Awesome review as always! :beers::sunglasses::+1::sparkles:


#4

I’ve just ordered one because of this… My wife is already on at me “what’s this thing you’ve bought now? not another VR thing?!” so I’m not speaking to Sebastian for making me do this! :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m also losing my patience with Pimax as its been a month since my 5K+ went faulty and I’m still waiting for a replacement to arrive… so its a bad mood decision :slight_smile:


#5

Mine won’t ship until well into Dec.

Every 8-12 hours of procrastination seems to add 8 more days of shipping time.


#6

Hey many thanks for the good review and comparison!


#7

5K+ pictures still look sharper than those of the Odyssey+.
I tried the “old” Odyssey and the small sweetspot was a big problem for me. Hardly could find a position, where I had a sharp picture. So, there seems to be still that problem with the Odyssey+.
No, thanks! Waiting for my 5K+.


#8

Still cannot buy it from Europe ?


#9

No :frowning: which is a real shame! There is the import thing but obviously adds a bit more to the cost and no idea on complications if there is a fault. :thinking:

Which is how I talked myself out of ordering one the other day… that didn’t last!


#10

A definite pleasant surprise. Ordered.

Thanks, Sebastian!


#11

Can see sde if we use for looking porn?


#12

I bought from Europe with BH Photo.


#13

So real question is how it compares overall to the Pimax 5+? Are the absence of SDE and OLED screen enough to make it more if a toss up when deciding which one is better? Or do you still say, get the Pimax 5+ over the Odyssy +?


#14

Still the lower res of the ody+ means things far off in the distance will be poorly defined compared the pimax. SDE isn’t everything, on my OG vive, after five minutes I don’t even notice it anymore. We need higher res for more defintion/clarity and the ody+ can’t deliver that with it’s still subpar res compared to the pimax. I’m more interested to see what Steam and HTC CV2 that was just announced will bring in terms of combining FOV, oled, SDE reduction and higher res. Another big issue with inside out tracking is not only is it not as precise, but you can’t use motion simulators for the hardcore people as there isn’t tracker data that can be canceled out.


#15

I think it just depends on the person, some people seem to be more immersed by a wide FOV and optimum clarity and thus prefer the 5K+, others, like me are more immersed by the lack of SDE, better blacks/colors, and smoother framerate and thus prefer the Odyssey+. It can also depend on the experience, for me some games/experiences the pimax wins and others the Odyssey+. Too bad there isn’t one HMD that has it all.


#16

The one thing I disagree with Sebastian on is the comfort. This will be highly dependent on your head and head shape but a large number of people, me included, find the comfort of the + much worse than the regular Odyssey. Maybe I just have a big nose, but both the + and the Pimax rest uncomfortably on my nose, making it hurt over time and red every time I use it. I have some foam on order that hopefully should fix this but just keep in mind it’s not a one size fits all design.


#17

When ? It’s not available now.


#18

Yeap , 5k + pictures looks to me clear and more sharp than O+ . Also I see more details around shark eye on Pimax. Definitly 5k+ wins. Imho SDE is overated by ppl, sharpness & nativ res. is a way to go.

Thank you @mixedrealityTV for posting this pics , it save me some euros :slight_smile:


#19

the ody+ does not realy have a lower res when it comes to the eye, the res of the 5k+ is much more stretched because of the higher fov
often pixel per degree (ppd) is used to get a better comparison value for the detail you might see with your eyes

??? did i miss something important


#20

Should use Sub pixels per degree.